A podcast to help you get resourced, feel capable, and breathe easier

We believe we lead better when we lead side by side.

We connect busy female leaders to the practical resources they need for ministry today.

You need quick access to resources that work. We believe God has made every leader capable for the mission he has given. That’s why we give you access to leaders who share spiritual wisdom and tactical tools just for you!


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Season 2

Episode 1

Before You Say a Word -
Pt 1

Being a great leader means attending to two things: leading self and leading others. Without great self-leadership, we’ll never lead others well, despite our best efforts.

In this two-part episode, co-hosts Annie & Heidi talk about how to prepare for a difficult conversation by leading yourself well. With the right preparation steps, your difficult conversation might be easier than you think!

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Episode 2

Before You Say a Word -
Pt 2

In the last episode, we started talking about the difficult conversations that matter as we kicked off season 2. We shared the preparation steps you need to take to lead yourself before you say a word.

In this episode, co-hosts Annie & Heidi, dive into designing the conversation you know you need to have, but don’t know where to start. And how to navigate the hardest part of that tough conversation.

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Episode 3

Embracing the Leader You Are

Sometimes we negate relational or intuitive leadership strengths over strategic ones. Yet when we lead authentically with empathy and a soul care lens, we build strong relationships with our team and confidence in how God wired us.

In this episode, we talk to
Tami Stordahl, a 26 year ministry veteran, about leading from these strengths while caring for yourself in the daily demands of leadership.

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Episode 4

How to Encourage Others

Who needs a little encouragement when things get hard? Every one of us needs a good boost of affirmation now and then. If you are busy doing ministry, encouragement can be hard to come by.

In this episode, we talk to Andrea Coli, Teaching Pastor at CrossWinds Church and Executive Director of Lead Bold! about the space every woman in ministry needs to be encouraged, equipped and challenged to do the work that God has called us to do.

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Episode 1

What Busy Leaders Need Most

Life in ministry is amazing - when you’re not overwhelmed. And, a huge part of fighting the overwhelm is to reduce the busyness of your life.

In this inaugural episode, co-hosts Annie & Heidi talk about the ways female leaders can overcome busy so that they can continue to feel resourced, feel capable, and breathe easier for impact in ministry. 

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Episode 2

Thriving in Marriage & Ministry

Is it possible to have a healthy marriage and a healthy ministry? Or is it one at the expense of the other?

In this episode, we’re taking a closer look at this question through the lens of Joanne Thompson, a seasoned leader who’s spent nearly 50 years in ministry discovering the answers to this question. And how a DQ Buster Bar holds a clue! 

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Episode 3

Managing Your Mindset

When faced with a difficult situation or challenging opportunity, how do you react? We come to a situation with our own mindset -- we think our own thoughts and we forget to tune in to Christ's perspective.

Let’s find out from Kathleen Fischer how we can manage our mindset more effectively to find better solutions and perspective. 

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Episode 4

Reflecting Jesus in Conversations About Race 

How are you addressing issues of race in your church or ministry? Do you know what to say or are you stumbling for the right words?

In this episode, we’re taking a closer look at these questions and more with guidance of Chaneika Polk, an experienced ministry leader who's worn many hats in a multi-ethnic, multisite church for nearly a decade. 

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Episode 5

Permission to Make Mistakes

What draws you to a leader and inspires you to follow them? How do you know if you’ve got that as a leader? If you don’t have it yet, how do you get it? (hint: how you handle mistakes is a clue!)

In this episode, we talk about ways you can develop the “it-factor” that draws other people toward you with Jeannette Grace, author of G-Factor: 8 Secrets for Increasing Your Gravitational Pull at Work.

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Episode 6

Navigating Hard Seasons

Have you been knocked off balance navigating an unexpected or hard season? Did you see it coming or was it a slow simmer of "hard" that knocked you off your feet? If you're not in it now, you will be at some point. 

Get real with co-hosts Annie & Heidi in a transparent discussion about facing the reality of hard seasons and how navigating through them is an ongoing journey.

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Episode 7

Connecting Vision to Action

What’s your first instinct when when you hear the word “strategy?” Do you jump up and down with excitement or sprint in the opposite direction? In ministry, we sometimes forget that great vision and mission always needs a great strategy. 

In this episode, we talk with experienced strategist, Jennifer Fuller, to learn how to connect strategy to action and how leaders in ministry can be strategic, even if it’s not a natural talent.  

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Episode 8

Change is Messy in the Middle

Change is inevitable and sometimes tricky. We can get stuck in the messy middle. Change starts with an event that leaves us unprepared for the emotional response and journey to acceptance that is unique for everyone.

In this episode, leadership coach, Heidi Lewerenz, guides us through a proven framework that helps leaders navigate their change and emotions while leading others through, too.

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Episode 9

When Your Emotions Leak

Are leaky emotions getting in the way of you being all you can be as a leader? Do you know when and why you’re being mastered by them and how they show up in your interactions with those you lead?

In this episode, we talk to Amanda Cornelius, an experienced therapist and business leader who specializes in helping women and leaders live healthier lives. Learn to name and conquer the master of your emotions when it sneaks up on you.

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Episode 10

Lead With Your Strengths

Do you do what you do best every day? CliftonStrengths (StrengthsFinder) helps you discover your natural talents so that you can do just that. But knowledge isn’t enough. Turning knowledge into action equips you lead yourself and your team more effectively, preserve your energy, and make better decisions.

In this episode, Annie puts Heidi, a Certified Gallup Strength Coach, on the “hot seat” to take CliftonStrengths to the next level so that you can truly lead with your strengths.

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Episode 11

Relationships That Resource Your Mission

Just because God has called us to do a specific thing, doesn’t mean it will be easy. One of the challenges that keep leaders up at night is how to resource the mission God has given them.

Tammy Kocher, Executive Director of New Life Family Services, learned this “how-to” by first doing the wrong things, which led her to a relationship-focused approach fueled by truly caring for what people are passionate about. When passion matches mission, people give generously. 

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Episode 12

Boost Your Energy With Healthy Habits

Busy leaders need energy. But our grab and go, quick fix world encourages food choices that deplete instead of restore. So, what does a leader do to stay healthy and energized in the midst of busy and why does it matter?

Get ready for a high energy conversation with Lainey Younkin, a Registered Dietician who specializes in helping women build better habits. With a blend of education, inspiration, and real-world solutions, you will feel better equipped to make small changes for a healthier life. 

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Episode 13

Carve a Path to Joy

Do you have trouble finding joy? We can seek and find joy rather than waiting for it to drop on our lap. Even when we hit “bottom”, we have the opportunity for joy to enter into our life and begin its healing work.

In this episode, we talk to Kristen Joy as she shares her own journey and how she helps others in ministry find the joy that so easily can slip away as we serve others.

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Episode 14

Myers Briggs & Teams That Thrive

We assume people “get it” when we communicate ideas, expectations, requests, or needs. But they don't. We need a framework to understand our differences so that we can find our path toward productive dialogue. 

In this episode, Heidi puts Annie, a Certified Myers Briggs professional and leadership coach, on the “hot seat” to embrace more positive communication on your team.

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Episode 15

Confidence to Be Creative

Sometimes when we think about creativity in ministry we think big productions, fancy lighting, and great artistry. But this isn’t possible for every church and when we start comparing we can quickly lose our confidence.

In this episode, we learn from a creative leader of 25+ years,
Tanya Pinkerman, how to think differently about creativity for greater impact through creative problem-solving.

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Episode 16

Managing Triggers in Ministry

We are in ministry for good reasons and all the right motivations. Yet, the pressures and demands can sometimes get the better of us. Ignoring unresolved issues can lead you to burn out or lash out.

In this episode, we’re talking about ways to manage emotional triggers that can catch us by surprise with the help of Kathy Johnson, Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor. 

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Episode 17

Leading Where You're Called

When you’re a Christian leader outside of a traditional ministry setting, you have a platform to live and lead in a way that reflects Him through character, competence, and confidence.

In this episode, we talk to Jane Page, CEO of Lionstone Investments, about what it’s like to lead with excellence and how faith is foundational to great leadership wherever you work. 

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Episode 18

Resilience in the Chaos

Looking back on 2020, we see more chaos than we could have imagined, but we made it! It took effort to maintain a bold confidence, make decisions without clarity, and creativity to connect with others.

In this episode, co-hosts Annie & Heidi talk about what we've learned from the year and how to reinforce your confidence & create meaningful connections in the new year.

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Episode 19

Clear the Way for a
Fresh Start

According to the Fresh Start effect, people are more likely to take action towards a goal after temporal landmarks or special occasions that represent new beginnings, like a new year.

In this episode, Annie & Heidi talk about how a new year brings an opportunity for greater clarity and better creative problem-solving by pressing on toward all that’s to come. 

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Episode 20

Engaging with the Disabled in our Community

People with disabilities and those who care for them often hit barriers in the Christian communities where they seek connection and purpose.

In this episode, Joan Borton of Luke 14 Exchange offers practical insight from personal and professional experience into how Christians, leaders, & ministries can create a welcoming culture for people with disabilities.

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Episode 21

What the Enneagram Reveals

The Enneagram is one of the most talked about assessments in the ministry world these days. Respected leaders across the country are turning to this tool to help them lead their teams.

In this episode we talk to Certified Enneagram Coach, Kristi Erickson, about why it’s so important to view this assessment through the lens of faith so that we understand ourselves, God, and others better.

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Episode 22

Cutting Through the Mental Chaos

Have you ever felt drained by leading? Do your same old ways to refresh your soul just leave you still feeling empty?

In this episode, Kristin Evenson, a Change and Transitions Coach, shares bite-size spiritual practices that rewire the brain and enable us to step into the holy invitation God offers in life and leadership.

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Episode 23

Honoring Your Body

Many of us likely made New Year's resolutions that involve our health. by now, many of us have probably already let our best intentions fall by the wayside.

In this episode, we revisit the topic of physical health with certified health coach,
Sarah Alves. We dive into why it's so important to love our body and take care of it for our emotional, spiritual, and physical health. 

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